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		<title>By: Social Networking for Volunteer Coordinators &#171; The Paul Clarke Nonprofit Resource Center Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Social Networking for Volunteer Coordinators &#171; The Paul Clarke Nonprofit Resource Center Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How Can Volunteer Coordinators Help Their Organizations Become Networked Nonprofits? &#8211; Guest post by Robert J. Rosenthal, Director of Communications for VolunteerMatch, on Beth Kanter&#8217;s blog [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] How Can Volunteer Coordinators Help Their Organizations Become Networked Nonprofits? &#8211; Guest post by Robert J. Rosenthal, Director of Communications for VolunteerMatch, on Beth Kanter&#8217;s blog [...]</p>
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		<title>By: How Can Volunteer Coordinators Help Their Organizations Become Networked Nonprofits? &#171; Mid-Central Volunteer Coordinators Association</title>
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		<dc:creator>How Can Volunteer Coordinators Help Their Organizations Become Networked Nonprofits? &#171; Mid-Central Volunteer Coordinators Association</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read Robert&#8217;s post on Beth&#8217;s blog here!  July 22nd, 2010 &#124; Tags: Networking, Social Media &#124; Category: Networking [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way that your focusing on the network of volunteers reminds me of refering to a volunteer as unpaid staff.  As a person invested by the organization their network is readily available from the start. And your idea of a mentoring relationship with other volunteers really tightens up the loss of validation and the intrepidation of early success.  

My question is about utilizing other orginization as possible visitations.  I find in my own volunteering; I feel great to visit another org. And then come home to the first org.  It&#039;s like finding your center for even further success.  What are your thoughs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way that your focusing on the network of volunteers reminds me of refering to a volunteer as unpaid staff.  As a person invested by the organization their network is readily available from the start. And your idea of a mentoring relationship with other volunteers really tightens up the loss of validation and the intrepidation of early success.  </p>
<p>My question is about utilizing other orginization as possible visitations.  I find in my own volunteering; I feel great to visit another org. And then come home to the first org.  It&#8217;s like finding your center for even further success.  What are your thoughs?</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Carr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

Wow! I agree that we are all likely in agreement as this discussion has transpired. I really like the 3-stages of a volunteer that you referenced. Thanks for your contribution.

Note: It is interesting that Beth is encouraging the conversation from &quot;behind the scenes.&quot; I agree that Beth Kanter and VolunteerMatch rock!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>Wow! I agree that we are all likely in agreement as this discussion has transpired. I really like the 3-stages of a volunteer that you referenced. Thanks for your contribution.</p>
<p>Note: It is interesting that Beth is encouraging the conversation from &#8220;behind the scenes.&#8221; I agree that Beth Kanter and VolunteerMatch rock!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Jarvis, Realized Worth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Jarvis, Realized Worth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First let me say that I am a big fan of Beth Kanter and Rob Rosenthal! I missed meeting Beth in NYC at the National Conference on Volunteering and Service, but I was privileged to hang out with Rob and his team at the Target party. 

Beth asked me to expand on the comments I posted on the Realized Worth page (http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/Realizedworth) when I linked to this article. My comment was this: &quot;Rob’s article was good, especially his observation that observation that &#039;fear&#039; of new ideas can easily cripple a nonprofit&#039;s ability to network.&quot;

I also commented that there were a couple of points I disagreed with - which is why Beth asked for some clarification.

Actually, if Rob and I were in a conversation, I’m not entirely sure that we would disagree at all. It’s hard to cover all the nuances that might be involved in topics via a quick blog. Roger Carr’s comment above regarding Rob’s first point (‘Needs Assessment’) is a perfect example. I agree with Roger. When nonprofits prioritize their needs over those of the volunteers, it’s easy to; 1) treat all volunteers the same; 2) use volunteers as a means to an end (short term), instead of seeing them as partners in achieving the nonprofit’s goals (long term); and 3) utilizing volunteers as ‘staff support’, which I think is exactly the opposite of what the structure should be.

Here’s the thing; I know Beth agrees with that (right???) and so does Rob. In fact Rob clarifies his point in the above comments stating that nonprofits must begin the process with what they know they need. True enough. Yet, any volunteer coordinator worth his/her salt should also know why people volunteer with their organizations and seek to structure a program that addresses those needs as well - even before they walk through the door.

So I think a ‘Needs Assessment’ should include 3 Horizons; a) community, b) nonprofit, and c) volunteers. Begin with the overlap between those three circles, and then create agreements to grow further. This is certainly what Beth alludes to in her vision of the Networked Nonprofit.

Fundamentally, I think the ‘Screening’ step is a guaranteed bottleneck (at best) or an impregnable barrier (at worst). Although necessary and prudent for many organizations, I believe that requiring screening and orientation for newbie volunteers is a deterrent. Again, I think it’s due to our tendency (laziness?) to treat all volunteers the same. They are not the same. People showing up for the first time shouldn’t be placed within roles that require such risk management. They should be offered an experience and the opportunity to discover if this volunteering role is right for them. If nonprofits ever hope to achieve what Beth describes as organizations that are ‘easy for outsiders to get in and insiders to get out’ then this popular ‘Fortress’ attribute has to be utilized correctly.

We encourage businesses and nonprofits alike to structure their programs with the understanding that volunteers move through 3 Stages http://bit.ly/9GEvc8. Embracing this approach dismantles some of the most significant barriers facing would-be volunteers today, and meets everyone at ‘their highest level of contribution’. 

I want to emphasis again that I am a big fan of Beth’s and I think she’s out in front when it comes to shaping the next evolution of volunteerism. Rob’s work via VolunteerMatch is exceptional and one of the best tools available to mobilize people to volunteer.

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First let me say that I am a big fan of Beth Kanter and Rob Rosenthal! I missed meeting Beth in NYC at the National Conference on Volunteering and Service, but I was privileged to hang out with Rob and his team at the Target party. </p>
<p>Beth asked me to expand on the comments I posted on the Realized Worth page (<a href="http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/Realizedworth" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.facebook.com/home.php?_/Realizedworth&amp;referer=');">http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/Realizedworth</a>) when I linked to this article. My comment was this: &#8220;Rob’s article was good, especially his observation that observation that &#8216;fear&#8217; of new ideas can easily cripple a nonprofit&#8217;s ability to network.&#8221;</p>
<p>I also commented that there were a couple of points I disagreed with &#8211; which is why Beth asked for some clarification.</p>
<p>Actually, if Rob and I were in a conversation, I’m not entirely sure that we would disagree at all. It’s hard to cover all the nuances that might be involved in topics via a quick blog. Roger Carr’s comment above regarding Rob’s first point (‘Needs Assessment’) is a perfect example. I agree with Roger. When nonprofits prioritize their needs over those of the volunteers, it’s easy to; 1) treat all volunteers the same; 2) use volunteers as a means to an end (short term), instead of seeing them as partners in achieving the nonprofit’s goals (long term); and 3) utilizing volunteers as ‘staff support’, which I think is exactly the opposite of what the structure should be.</p>
<p>Here’s the thing; I know Beth agrees with that (right???) and so does Rob. In fact Rob clarifies his point in the above comments stating that nonprofits must begin the process with what they know they need. True enough. Yet, any volunteer coordinator worth his/her salt should also know why people volunteer with their organizations and seek to structure a program that addresses those needs as well &#8211; even before they walk through the door.</p>
<p>So I think a ‘Needs Assessment’ should include 3 Horizons; a) community, b) nonprofit, and c) volunteers. Begin with the overlap between those three circles, and then create agreements to grow further. This is certainly what Beth alludes to in her vision of the Networked Nonprofit.</p>
<p>Fundamentally, I think the ‘Screening’ step is a guaranteed bottleneck (at best) or an impregnable barrier (at worst). Although necessary and prudent for many organizations, I believe that requiring screening and orientation for newbie volunteers is a deterrent. Again, I think it’s due to our tendency (laziness?) to treat all volunteers the same. They are not the same. People showing up for the first time shouldn’t be placed within roles that require such risk management. They should be offered an experience and the opportunity to discover if this volunteering role is right for them. If nonprofits ever hope to achieve what Beth describes as organizations that are ‘easy for outsiders to get in and insiders to get out’ then this popular ‘Fortress’ attribute has to be utilized correctly.</p>
<p>We encourage businesses and nonprofits alike to structure their programs with the understanding that volunteers move through 3 Stages <a href="http://bit.ly/9GEvc8" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/bit.ly/9GEvc8?referer=');">http://bit.ly/9GEvc8</a>. Embracing this approach dismantles some of the most significant barriers facing would-be volunteers today, and meets everyone at ‘their highest level of contribution’. </p>
<p>I want to emphasis again that I am a big fan of Beth’s and I think she’s out in front when it comes to shaping the next evolution of volunteerism. Rob’s work via VolunteerMatch is exceptional and one of the best tools available to mobilize people to volunteer.</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Carr</title>
		<link>http://www.bethkanter.org/volunteer-coordinator/comment-page-1/#comment-563</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,
Yes, we are in agreement. Nonprofits need to be open to ideas that come from these experienced volunteers rather than trying to fit them into a role (that might not be as effective or that might not take advantage of available skills) just because the role was identified prior. The key is listening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,<br />
Yes, we are in agreement. Nonprofits need to be open to ideas that come from these experienced volunteers rather than trying to fit them into a role (that might not be as effective or that might not take advantage of available skills) just because the role was identified prior. The key is listening.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Rosenthal</title>
		<link>http://www.bethkanter.org/volunteer-coordinator/comment-page-1/#comment-555</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Rosenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comments everyone - thank your for sharing and adding value here. 

Roger Carr - I totally agree, but a nonprofit can only assess needs it knows it has, right? When the right volunteer (or corporate group for that matter) walks in the door with a refreshing idea and a great skill-set, a networked nonprofit could be well situated to give the support they&#039;ll need to truly contribute and succeed.   

Erica, Erica (two Ericas!) - Thank you! I plan to explore this further in coming months on the VolunteerMatch blog, Engaging Volunteers (http://blogs.volunteermatch.org/engagingvolunteers). I feel like I&#039;m just getting started. There&#039;s lots more to talk about, especially in areas of retention and day-to-day collaboration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments everyone &#8211; thank your for sharing and adding value here. </p>
<p>Roger Carr &#8211; I totally agree, but a nonprofit can only assess needs it knows it has, right? When the right volunteer (or corporate group for that matter) walks in the door with a refreshing idea and a great skill-set, a networked nonprofit could be well situated to give the support they&#8217;ll need to truly contribute and succeed.   </p>
<p>Erica, Erica (two Ericas!) &#8211; Thank you! I plan to explore this further in coming months on the VolunteerMatch blog, Engaging Volunteers (<a href="http://blogs.volunteermatch.org/engagingvolunteers" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/blogs.volunteermatch.org/engagingvolunteers?referer=');">http://blogs.volunteermatch.org/engagingvolunteers</a>). I feel like I&#8217;m just getting started. There&#8217;s lots more to talk about, especially in areas of retention and day-to-day collaboration.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Carr</title>
		<link>http://www.bethkanter.org/volunteer-coordinator/comment-page-1/#comment-544</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,

I appreciate the challenge some organizations will have moving from a fortress model to a networked nonprofit model. Your suggestions will help take steps in the right direction.

The only issue I have with your set of methods is they assume the nonprofit is going to define needs and then determine if each volunteer can help meet those needs. However, sometimes the volunteer has more experience than the VC and their nonprofit leaders. The volunteer might also have skills not considered, but would be a major contribution in forwarding the mission of the organization. When considering the more experienced volunteers, I believe the volunteer needs to be a part of defining the area of work and allowed some independence in supporting the nonprofit. Yes, this will scare organizations that want CONTROL. But if this is not done, the organization will be limiting the impact that is made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>I appreciate the challenge some organizations will have moving from a fortress model to a networked nonprofit model. Your suggestions will help take steps in the right direction.</p>
<p>The only issue I have with your set of methods is they assume the nonprofit is going to define needs and then determine if each volunteer can help meet those needs. However, sometimes the volunteer has more experience than the VC and their nonprofit leaders. The volunteer might also have skills not considered, but would be a major contribution in forwarding the mission of the organization. When considering the more experienced volunteers, I believe the volunteer needs to be a part of defining the area of work and allowed some independence in supporting the nonprofit. Yes, this will scare organizations that want CONTROL. But if this is not done, the organization will be limiting the impact that is made.</p>
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		<title>By: Erica Ellis</title>
		<link>http://www.bethkanter.org/volunteer-coordinator/comment-page-1/#comment-526</link>
		<dc:creator>Erica Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 21:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been waiting for someone to write about this topic, so thank you! Volunteers are often the biggest advocates for your organization, so engaging with them online is critical (in my opinion) and the easier you make it for them to share your message, the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been waiting for someone to write about this topic, so thank you! Volunteers are often the biggest advocates for your organization, so engaging with them online is critical (in my opinion) and the easier you make it for them to share your message, the better.</p>
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		<title>By: Erica Dorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erica Dorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was glad to learn through your blog that at ACCIONUSA.org we use volunteers in a networked way. We post opportuities through Twitter and FB, we recently ran a &quot;Twitition&quot; to have students compete for awareness- building about US microfinance on Twitter. 
This is all helpful advice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was glad to learn through your blog that at ACCIONUSA.org we use volunteers in a networked way. We post opportuities through Twitter and FB, we recently ran a &#8220;Twitition&#8221; to have students compete for awareness- building about US microfinance on Twitter.<br />
This is all helpful advice!</p>
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